The Red Brick Times

  Thursday, April 03, 2008

The Fourth Amendment says: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Pesky amendment.
by whatley (2) comments

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  • Problem is this argument is absolute horseshit. Let's all look up posse commitatus. They can't do military operations on citizens inside the U.S. unless they declare martial law. I can't even believe this crap gets consideration by the press when any half educated 8th grader should know better.

    Not that I have an opinion or anything.
     
  • This raises a bunch of base-level definitions to consciousness. First, what is "reasonable", and to whom? Second, is the domestic US in a state of war within its boundaries, and who says so?

    The military thinks that unquestioning obedience to rules is reasonable. Since it is easier to obey than to reason and resist, many people will concur. Many religious sects use this precept, as do fringe movements and cults. Whenever one sees a crowd/mob marching and shouting in lockstep, higher mental processes have been discarded. Is this reasonable? The constitution is used to support the rights of individuals. Are the political and military policy makers using the same arguments to support the supposed rights of their own individual groups?

    The FBI under J Edgar Hoover considered that a state of war existed between their institutionalized way of thought and anyone who did not agree with it. In the 1950s and through Viet Nam, it was easiest to label "outsiders" as either "Communist" or "insane". Currently, if you are opposed, you must be an "Islamic fundamentalist", or "insane". There is something dark about discriminating by religious affiliation rather than by political philosophy. But when you consider that the USA has made a religion of its philosophy, it makes a kind of sense. Do human groups require religion as a compost bin in which to discard excesses of moral doubts and stabs of conscience? War, after all, states "I will take what you have by force because you are less human and deserving of extermination." It has to, since we would be unable to kill people who are not only like us, but are, in fact, completely us.

    I know you agree with me because you are not insane.
     
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